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I`ve been using this eyeliner, pretty regularly lately. I bought it in Black 511. It claims to be long lasting, up to 16 hours. I have used it both on my upper lash line and waterline. By itself, its okay. I usually put my liquid liner over top of it because it makes my liquid liner even blacker and it does indeed last. However, on my waterline, I`m guessing because it`s not waterproof, it doesn`t last long at all. That`s okay though. Overall, its a good liner. It`s creamy, dark and goes on smooth. Very easy to apply, once you get the hang of it. And it also comes with a smudger on the other end so if you want a dramatic smokey eye you can create it! An overall good product.